A World Without PHP

Ben Marks (01.Oct.2016 at 09:45, 50 min)
Keynote at PHP North West 2016 (English - UK)

Rating: 3 of 5

A World Without PHP

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Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 10:52 by Stefan Koopmanschap (374 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Interesting talk, quite a trip down memory lane plus a nice message about community. Thank you.

Rating: 5 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 11:04 by Matt Cockayne (24 comments)

A great talk that offered an interesting thought to start the conference and made me appreciative of the language and community I'm a part of.

Rating: 2 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 12:07 by David Goodwin (69 comments) via joind.in Android app

somehow i didn't get into this talk and didn't feel it met the abstract.

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 13:35 by David Makin (8 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Was not really what it said on the tin. However it was interesting and all about community is what makes the language popular.

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 13:39 by Stephan Gerlach (8 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Wasn't quite what I expected but I still enjoyed it.

Encouraged me to get more involved in Open Source projects and php communities.

Thanks Ben

Rating: 2 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 13:49 by Jerry Verhoef (15 comments) via Web2 LIVE

The talk down memorylane was interesting and to fun to watch for person who saw most of events mentioned. But for the newer people it was unclear.

As a Keynote it really missed the inspiring punchline.

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 14:27 by James Titcumb (254 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Good non-typical history of PHP. Fitted the abstract well I think. There was a bit of in-joking I think, which maybe was sometimes hard to avoid. However, good encouragement to get involved in community, and keep it going (perhaps a *little* on the scaremongering side: "get involved or PHP dies and you lose your career" heh, but that might just be me being cynical...)

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 16:02 by Matt Brunt (40 comments) via Web2 LIVE

The look at statistics and things that wouldn't be around was eye-opening, Ben is a charismatic and engaging speaker.

The in-joking was a little off-touch for me at times, but overall the talk was enjoyable.

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 16:22 by Antonis Pavlakis (97 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Wasn't really sure what to expect... based on its title.

A really enjoyable talk with some food for thought ;)

But where would we be without PHP? Or where will we be without PHP? Still a question to be answered.

Rating: 5 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 17:02 by Ciaran McNulty (110 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Really good as a history of PHP, I can understand the comments about the abstract - the narrative of 'where would we be without PHP' fell by the side a little and could be used a bit more to string the anecdotes together

That aside each section was fun and interesting!

Rating: 2 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 17:04 by Pete McFarlane (49 comments) via Web2 LIVE

A bit disjointed and slightly depressing, not really what I expected from the keynote!

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 17:35 by Mark Railton (47 comments) via joind.in Android app

Really enjoyed this talk and was really thought provoking, although I'm not 100% sure it was fitting for an opening keynote.

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 18:06 by Sunil Duggal (7 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Good talk, took me back to the old days where php wasn't around actively

Rating: 3 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 18:23 by Pascal de Vink (27 comments)

Good talk, and very recognisable. However, it felt a bit all over the place. I guess the slow transitions between slides and the often looking at the slides didn't help. Also, it was hard to understand the in-crowd jokes watching remotely from the track 2 room.
That being said, it's a very interesting angle and a topic that more people should think about and be thankful for.

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 18:52 by Craig Patrick (19 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Good delivery and good overview - thanks

Rating: 4 of 5

01.Oct.2016 at 20:10 by Gareth Ellis (16 comments) via Web2 LIVE

An interesting keynote delivered in an engaging and humourous manner.

Rating: 5 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 11:00 by Mark Bradley (35 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Fun talk. Nice way to kick off the conference.

Rating: 4 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 11:31 by Michael Peacock (32 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Interesting and well presented talk

Rating: 3 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 12:40 by Chris Noden (7 comments) via Web2 LIVE

I'm afraid I got bored and started looking for the closest door. Sorry :( It was an interesting topic which would never have been easy to deliver. A lot of pauses and "umm" moments.

Rating: 4 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 14:16 by Rich Sage (71 comments) via Web2 LIVE

I enjoyed this talk, and Ben is definitely an engaging speaker. I'd agree with some of the other comments that the "punchline" was a bit missed here and/or glossed over, but really enjoyed the reminiscing back to the early days (.php3 files, totally).

Rating: 3 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 15:33 by Derek Kaye (14 comments) via Web2 LIVE

This was an interesting talk about the history of PHP and where it ranked at different times compared to other platforms, but it was not what I was expecting. I expected an analysis of likely alternatives that popular sites would have been written in had PHP not been around.

Rating: 4 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 16:04 by Chris Emerson (32 comments) via Web2 LIVE

A good overview of the PHP world - history, current state and how far it's come.

Rating: 2 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 18:45 by Mike Congreve (8 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Good presentation but I felt the subject was a bit rambley

Rating: 5 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 20:17 by Michael Cullum (52 comments)

Ben's an engaging speaker and this talk was a nice take on presenting the history of the PHP community.

Rating: 4 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 20:28 by Ben Plummer (35 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Ben put forward interesting views on "A World without PHP" and provided some thought provoking statistics however I felt in some places the talk halted and could have flowed more smoothly.

Rating: 3 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 21:11 by Graeme Hinchliffe (9 comments) via Web2 LIVE

An interesting start to the conference, did make me think.

Rating: 3 of 5

02.Oct.2016 at 21:39 by Ramon de la Fuente (128 comments) via Web2 LIVE

I found this talk a little disappointing as a keynote to be honest. Not for the content, because I feel the topic and approach where very promising (although I would have liked to have a little more fun with guesswork on where the world would be without PHP).

It was more about the delivery - which seemed off with a lot of context switching and jokes meant for the in-crowd. I'd say on the whole it did inspire, and made me reflect on the posed statement: "where would I be if it wasn't for PHP..."

Rating: 5 of 5

03.Oct.2016 at 10:20 by Gary Hockin (145 comments) via Web2 LIVE

I really enjoyed this talk. Ben has natural charisma that makes him amusing and entertaining on stage, and the ideas he spoke about were very interesting. I think the talk lost its way a little at one point (maybe with the interaction with friends off stage?), but overall it was funny and enjoyable. Thanks Ben.

Rating: 2 of 5

03.Oct.2016 at 10:29 by Andy Roberts (8 comments) via Web2 LIVE

I was disappointed with this talk, and felt it was poor choice for the keynote. It was depressing, vague nostalgic rhetoric. The services, and products which exist now, would still exist in some manner, as those ideas would of just been implemented by someone else in another probably less fun, and pragmatic language. The focus should of been on why and how PHP enabled the world to develop, and how it can continue to make development accessible.

There was no explanations on why PHP became more popular, than Python, Perl and JAVA.
No references to how to improve and contribute to the PHP community, just simply adding documentation can have a positive impact.
Didn't understand the reference to the audience being older then expected? Was the speaker insinuating that PHP use is declining? - why?
Why bring up the PHP internals free-for-all chaos, that problem is only with a small few.
The PHP-FIG project should of been explained more, ignoring the politics - it does have a very clear trajectory: toward more community participation and robust standards.

Rating: 1 of 5

03.Oct.2016 at 10:33 by Martin Gill (7 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Speaking as a developer starting out in the industry, I found this talk a little confusing. I understood the main point of the talk which was if there was no php, then the world would be very different but you could say this about anything in life.

Apart from that, all I heard was a quick overview of old technologies and jokes with his friends in the audience. As for saying the PHP world is aging, im 26 and saw quite a few younger people in the building as well.

Poor keynote.

Rating: 2 of 5

03.Oct.2016 at 10:53 by Lewis Hides (13 comments) via Web2 LIVE

This had the potential to be a good talk, however somewhere along the way, something was lost. In my opinion, this talk certainly should not have been the Keynote. I believe that, as the first talk that everybody is attending, the keynote should be lively, inspiring and suitable for the whole audience. The speaker made reference to the generalization that the audience were "getting older" multiple times, almost as if this was a bad thing or something to feel ashamed of. And yet, this talk was clearly geared toward the older generation of PHP programmers, with all the irrelevant 'trips down memory lane' and in-jokes with friends in the audience, many of which would have been entirely lost on younger programmers due to a lack of explanation or cohesive 'point' being made. This talk had the potential to much more than it was, but unfortunately, ended up falling far short of the mark.

Rating: 5 of 5

04.Oct.2016 at 08:14 by Nigel Greenway (59 comments) via Web2 LIVE

An enjoyable and funny talk. Although I understand where people are coming from with the "in jokes", I think he delivered a great "what if" talk about PHP and it not being around. The idea that some people will not get these "in jokes" is a non-issue as from my point of view, the newer generation may not understand these jokes, but it may encourage them to look certain things up?

Rating: 3 of 5

05.Oct.2016 at 10:52 by Christopher Riley (10 comments)

This talk gave a good presentation of PHP history and reminded us just how many sites rely on PHP but I felt there was quite a bit missing from the what would the world be like without PHP side of the talk.

I wonder if the talk would be better if generalised to 'A world without open source', this topic may enable a better contrast and provide a more inspirational talk for a keynote.

Rating: 2 of 5

05.Oct.2016 at 13:34 by David Roff (14 comments) via Web2 LIVE

Whilst Ben is an interesting speaker (heard him before) in my opinion the choice of topic for a keynote wasn't great. The topic was slow and difficult to get into, should have been a bit more lively and thought provoking about the positive future that many of the developers in the audience have ahead of them. Felt like a history lesson first thing in the morning, just didn't work for me.

Rating: 3 of 5

06.Oct.2016 at 09:18 by Richard Bagshaw (21 comments) via Web2 LIVE

The talk was good, however it felt a little bit all over the place. Wasn't 100% sure what the take-away message was but the trip down memory lane was fun.

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